6.23.2006

panhandling against racism ii (with idea)

i got a comment at my previous post, which points to this interview with damali ayo and tim wise. i highly recommend listening to it, for an exploration of such issues as the pros and cons of the term "ally" in the anti-racist movement, tolerance and multiculturalism, new orleans and racism," "color-blindness," attention paid to inocuous surface problems and blindness to real racism, how we know exactly what race a person is, the tendency people have to draw clear lines around their races, white supremacists, the absurdity of race relations, using humor and irony in anti-racist work. the whole thing is just awesome. for instance:

"i'm always fascinated with the liberal language around this... listening to you guys talk about being "allies"... that at times is a really powerful term, and then at times isn't. because it still makes it feel like it's up to people of color. ... that it's our struggle. when really it's a white struggle to end racism as well..."
"you know, white people don't feel guilty. white people may be feeling lazy, but not feeling guilty. because when you're feeling guilty you do something about it."
"i'm less interested in having white allies, i'm much more interested in having white activists. so i can sit down and have a break."

"the only danger in that... is that when white folks take it upon ourselves to be activists, oftentimes because of the privileges that we have and because of the arrogance that whites are frankly encouraged to develop and inculcate as part of our personalities we tend to go in and sort of remake the show in
our image and do things that we're comfortable with, and a lot of times not only does that step on toes, but it undermines some of the work that's already been done. ... i think the bigger issue really is accountability."
one book mentioned in the interview is who is white?: latinos, asians, and the new black/nonblack divide by george yancey. (also check out some basics on "passing" and the resources given there)

now, in that context and as a follow up to my own comment that it's white people who should be doing the panhandling as well as the paying up for reparations, i have another idea. for the romanians!

so, hey, what if we did some actions where we panhandle for reparations for romas? i've always always wanted to have the guts to do something like this. i'm just worried about the implications - especially since in romania the issue of panhandling is so convoluted with racist attitudes already. also, because a lot of ethnic romanians have convinced themselves that both romas in general and any panhandlers they see are secretly or not so secretly obscenely rich, and therefore shouldn't be "encouraged." and there actually isn't much guilt with regards to slavery in romania, partly because in school we learn essentially nothing about our country's slave-owning past. all of which of course points to the magnitude of the problem. but i do think that an action like that, if it was done properly and together with roma people, could be incredibly powerful. just the kind of kick in the ass that's needed. (as background info on this issue: "from the gypsies to the african americans" by mihaela mudure & about "reparations")

what do you think??


image source | about romanian slavery: [eng] & [ro]

ps: 2nd erase racism carnival: very good.

7 comentarii:

Anonim spunea...

We don't think, we work :)))

I haven't read the post yet, but I couldn't help myself not to say that!

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

and wtf is that supposed to mean?

please read a post before you comment on it. thank you.

Anonim spunea...

Now, that I had a short look on your post I can comment a bit. When you posted about reparations, the first thing that came into my mind was if I or somebody else could do that in Romania for gypsies. I also think that it should be done by a white person because the message is more powerful when it comes from a person from the same group - of those who should feel guilty. I'll think more about this subject and read the links you gave and post something on my site also. If we do some reparations panhandle we should do it wisely because I think it's also illegal and by this kind of action we should educate people, but not encourage (gipsy) begging. We must clearly send a message that our action is NOT begging.

PS: I come from Slobozia, which comes from the romanian verb "a slobozi" (to free). I don't know when in the past the gipsy slaves were freed there.

Anonim spunea...

Don't you know? When the mine workers came in Bucharest to "protest" they were saying: "We work, we don't think", by that trying to compromise intellectuals that were "just" thinking.

I said that when I saw "What do you think?" because I am in such a hurry and don't have much time to read and make a judgement, just like the miners :P

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

oh. i thought you were calling me communist. or at least proletarian. muahaha... yeah.

(i am in a VERY bad mood.)

i totally agree that we'd need to be very careful with planning the action. among other things, romanians are so suspicious in general, it boggles the mind how suspicious most of them would be of an action where someone was "begging" to give money to the gypsies. so it needs to be done right, to be educational as you say and to address as many of these issues as possible... including the begging issue. but i think it has great potential. and personally, i know that i've wanted so many times to take an action that directly disrupted the very engrained behaviors and ways of thinking when it comes to roma-ethnic romanian interactions. i have taken some very small personal actions that could be called anti-racist and i know messed a bit with people's minds, but nothing more serious than that.

now i want to know about the history of slobozia. do some research! :D

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

i forgot to say that if you look, in my post i pre-criticized the idea that "we shouldn't encourage gypsy begging" because i think it's fraught with racist connotations and does NOT question the status quo of the situation of the romas in romanian society. plus, it makes me think of that movie "filantropica" which i was annoyed by for the same reasons that it addressed no deeper issues and said nothing new on the problem of panhandling... even though it wasn't racist, per se. (or was it? i don't remember, i just watched it once.)

Anonim spunea...

God damn it! I was dead wrong! I don't remember who told me that gypsies were freed in Slobozia and that was the reason for the name. Instead, wikipedia says:

The city was built on the place of the village "Vaideei". The name can be read as "vai de ei" which means "poor them/pity them".

Its name is from Romanian "slobozie", which meant a recently colonized village which was free of taxation. The word itself comes from the Slavic word "slobod" which means "free". As it is located in the middle of flat land (Bărăgan plain), it was very vulnerable to Tatar and Ottoman incursions. To encourage peasants to settle there, they were exempted from some taxes, hence the name.


Maybe there were freed some slaves, but it doesn't have anything to do with the name. I'll ask some friends maybe they know something.