1.03.2007

100% male brain

yes, that's me - and the average man only comes up to 50%!

i apparently out-male just about everybody who's ever lived, hooray:

this type of "test" (via feministe) always makes me laugh: if it proves anything, it's that sex really isn't binary at all, that what we call gender certainly isn't biological, and especially that on average differences between men and women are basically insignificant (just take a look at the actual "average" scores for men and women at the end, in the results section)! and yet the criteria that these tests are based on ("Scientists believe that people with a female brain find it more difficult to judge the slope of a line because they're not wired for spatial tasks" bla bla bla) are supposed to scientifically determine or verify our "sex"?!? ha. totally hilarious.

my scores: 15 out of 20 on the angles, 0% on the spot the difference [blush, this is supposed to be the most female-friendly task], left on the hands, 7 out of 20 on the empathising and 16 out of 20 on the systemising, 8 out of 10 on the eyes, 1.12/1.15 on the fingers, more masculine faces [whatever that's supposed to mean], 11 out of 12 on the 3D shapes, 6 words [?? i think there was a technical difficulty with the browser there, actually, as i entered way more than 6 words], £25 out of £50 on the ultimatum.

13 comentarii:

Anonim spunea...

Are you interested in anonimous people's score? Here it is mine.

11 out of 20 on the angles, 29% on the spot the difference, right on the hands, 10 out of 20 on the empathising, 16 out of 20 on the systemising, 7 out of 10 on the eyes, 0.94/1 on the fingers, more masculine faces, 2 out of 12 on the 3D shapes, 6 and 9 words, £25 out of £50 on the ultimatum.

My personal brain score is 50% female, like any other female who've taken the test.

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

what, how is that like any other female who's taken the test? i scored a 100% male. are you saying i'm not female?!? i guess maybe i'm not - gotta trust that "science", right? :)

Anonim spunea...

First correction: I'm anonymous.

Second correction: not any other female, but average score for women who've taken this survey.

Anonim spunea...

hello anonymous... I love your friendly style there buddy/buddess(since you are anonymous)
correction-sister of ruxi

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

you know who it is, right? heheh...

Anonim spunea...

my sex id is 50% male. phew! :))

My results: 12 out of 20 on the angles, 43% on the spot the difference, left on the hands, 11 out of 20 on the empathising, 14 out of 20 on the systemising, 5 out of 10 on the eyes, 1.04,1.07/1 on the fingers, more masculine faces, 12 out of 12 on the 3D shapes, 2 words, £25 out of £50 on the ultimatum.

I'm pretty bad at words.. only 2 words for both.. as much as i hate it i've always had problems with finding my words. BUT i'm good at 3D shapes :P

I hope I understood well the fingers test 'cause it was quite unclear to me..

Anonim spunea...

you said: this type of "test" (via feministe) always makes me laugh: if it proves anything, it's that sex really isn't binary at all, that what we call gender certainly isn't biological, and especially that on average differences between men and women are basically insignificant (just take a look at the actual "average" scores for men and women at the end, in the results section)! and yet the criteria that these tests are based on ("Scientists believe that people with a female brain find it more difficult to judge the slope of a line because they're not wired for spatial tasks" bla bla bla) are supposed to scientifically determine or verify our "sex"?!? ha. totally hilarious.

Those studies are just statistics and are about the average men or women. As you could see most male scored at 50% male and women at 50% women, so on average it's true that we are different in some ways. The average is what it matters.. Of course there is no such thing as pure males or womens. we are not binary, but most women and men tend to have certain habits/way of thinking/skills/etc for some more some reasons, mostly unknown. Maybe men score better at technical stuff because they are told they are better at this so they would develop in this field, rather than being born with such an ability. Maybe men on AVERAGE are born with such an ability (for technical stuff), but does that matter in any way?

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

... which is basically what i was trying to say too.

as for "Those studies are just statistics and are about the average men or women." - thanks, captain obvious (as some would say)! :P my point was that yes, those are average statistics BUT take a look at the difference in points under the results listed for each section at the end - and the ranges that determine "more female" or "more male" characteristics. because there's actually something v. fishy going on there... the differentiation seems pretty hard to make - you know, the whole variance within the same gender is greater than the variance between the average of the two genders thing... so then what conclusion can we actually draw??

at any rate, this test proves that i'm WAY more "male" than you (and most other men) and that's all i need to know. muahahaha

Anonim spunea...

I got 50% male. I guess I'm just a regular Joe. XP

I got 20 out of 20 on the angles, something like 21% on the spot the difference, also left on the hands, 6 out of 20 on the empathising and 9 out of 20 on the systemising, 8 out of 10 on the eyes, 0.97(right)/0.94(left) on the fingers, more masculine faces, 10 out of 12 on the 3D shapes, 5 words and £25/50.

...and I have a better memory than I thought. :)

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

@everyone: thanks for writing down your results, it's fun to see who's female and who's male. :P hehe, so far my mom's the only female... hm... but i'm slightly unsure that anonymous is actually my mom, since she scored so low on the 3D shapes and my mom has tons of technical training 'cause she's UNtraditionally "female" like that...

anyway, i was going to say precisely that the test seems so totally informed by what's traditionally considered "average female" and "average male" (like did you notice how the "empathizing" and "systemizing" questions were asked? yeah, of course most women will answer more "empathetically" and most men more "systematically" even if it's just because they feel they should). completely circular. and that's why it makes me laugh, at some level it's as if i were to ask you something like "do you like feminine traits and do you have any", and then if you said "yeah, i guess so" i'd dub you more female than if you'd said "no."

and by the way, on the other hand here's an example of what i was talking about regarding the actual average scores and the strangeness of making a big deal out of the difference between "female" and "male" based on them:

for the "angles" test, the results are:
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Average score for men: 15.1 out of 20
Average score for women: 13.3 out of 20

What does your result suggest?
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If you scored 13 - 17: You found this test neither hard nor easy. This suggests your brain has male and female traits when it comes to spatial ability.
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according to this, average women and men are in the same range, with both "male" and "female" traits, and neither is all that close to the "male" end of the spectrum! and yet for the 0-12 range the explanation goes:
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If you scored 0 - 12: You have more of a female brain. Scientists believe that people with a female brain find it more difficult to judge the slope of a line because they're not wired for spatial tasks. In past studies, 65 per cent of people who scored in this range were women.
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and for the 18-20 range:
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If you scored 18 - 20: You have more of a male brain. On average, men outperform women in this task and those with more mathematical knowledge tend to score quite high as well. In past studies, 60 per cent of the people in this range were men.
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what?!? so we're talking about 60% of the people in the "male" category being men and 65% of the people in the "female" category being women... wow, i'm SO convinced. especially when from the average scores that's probably way fewer people anyway, and most - women and men - are in the middle range (or at any rate any extra-"female" or extra-"male" people are canceling each other out, and pretty evenly for the two genders). but they've set up the categories so that the "really really male" one is the same as "higher math skills/interest," when we know that guys tending to be "better at math" (aka caring about math), if it's true at all, is totally a matter of training, education and socialization. basically, i have to ask: what would be the point of the "science" of this test, again?

Anonim spunea...

i think it's the same with the studies that show men having greater IQ then women.. since from kindergarden we are told boys are good at technical stuff, and girls at arts no wonder most guys would go for a technical training and after that score a bit more on average on the IQ test because the IQ results really depend on the training too. And EVEN IF ON AVERAGE men were born to be better at math and girls in arts why does it really matter?! men and women DON'T have to be identical in skills to be equal in rights or value as human beings. i've this because i remembered about a study about who has higher IQ: men or women? which is really a non-sense study.

Anonim spunea...

Scientists have finally discovered what's wrong with female brain: on the left side there is nothing right, and on the right side there is nothing left.... (a joke I heard today)

bujor tavaloiu spunea...

@marius: of-freaking-course. jeez.

@anonymous: next they should look into why i forgot to laugh. i can help.